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aviaandy

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Views : 1912  Jun 12, 2011 6:15pm

I want to use black panels to absorb light rather than reflect it and to avoid uncontrolled reflections, I have thought of using hardboard painted mat black on the rough side of the board but if anyone has used this and found it unsuitable or found something better I would appreciate any thoughts.

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Trasky

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RE: Using black Jun 12, 2011 6:22pm

quoting post from aviaandy:

I want to use black panels to absorb light rather than reflect it and to avoid uncontrolled reflections, I have thought of using hardboard painted mat black on the rough side of the board but if anyone has used this and found it unsuitable or found something better I would appreciate any thoughts.

I've used polyboards in one studio. One side white other side painted black. Surface texture was not an issue.

best paint apparently is blackboard paint. I've found that at wicks for about £8 per tin. Should do the job nicely.

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RoninUK

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RE: Using black Jun 12, 2011 6:32pm

quoting post from Trasky:

I've used polyboards in one studio. One side white other side painted black. Surface texture was not an issue.

best paint apparently is blackboard paint. I've found that at wicks for about £8 per tin. Should do the job nicely.


Agreed - but if you do use polyboard duct tape right round the edges will save you sweeping up drifts of little polystyrene beads that will wear off of it.


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lenscape

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RE: Using black Jun 12, 2011 6:35pm

The sprung reflectors that usually come in white, silver and gold often have a black side which is ideal for this. I have one that's about 2m high but it still twists down into a bag about 70cm across.

Failing that, polystyrene is much lighter and probably cheaper than hardboard.

But for sheer cheapness and fold-away convenience just get some sheets of mat black material and peg it up when you need it.

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TerryDraper

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RE: Using black Jun 12, 2011 6:37pm

quoting post from RoninUK:

Agreed - but if you do use polyboard duct tape right round the edges will save you sweeping up drifts of little polystyrene beads that will wear off of it.


+1

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 Razoir



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RE: Using black Jun 12, 2011 6:44pm

I do not know from where but you can get metal stands designed to take 8' x 4' sheets of polystyrene insulating board. The duct tape is a must. There are still a few beads but far fewer than without.

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RE: Using black Jun 12, 2011 7:39pm

quoting post from Trasky:

I've used polyboards in one studio. One side white other side painted black. Surface texture was not an issue.

best paint apparently is blackboard paint. I've found that at wicks for about £8 per tin. Should do the job nicely.


+1

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 Ace



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RE: Using black Jun 12, 2011 8:49pm

I use polyboards in the studio with a flat piece of wood and a wooden U channel screwed at right angles as a base to sit them in.

For location, the use described and many others where black/dark is needed, I have large sheets of black velvet, There is nothing blacker than black velvet! The sheets can be taped to walls, hung over doors or light stands. The velvet sheets fold easily for transportation and don't show creases.

I put Velcro strips on each edge with an overlap so that they would make a background when required. I had them originally to make multiple exposures with a 5x4 plate camera but 25 years and they are still going strong.

I made a similar set of white cloths which worked well till some mice got into the studio and chewed it up to make nests. The holes have turned it into my Swiss cheese background



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RedChecker

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RE: Using black Jun 13, 2011 2:17am

Futher to the black velvet idea, Colorama do a material they call Colorblock which comes in 2x3m sheets.

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aviaandy

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RE: Using black Jun 13, 2011 4:20am

quoting post from RedChecker:

Futher to the black velvet idea, Colorama do a material they call Colorblock which comes in 2x3m sheets.

This looks ideal and will investigate availablity and cost, than you all for your time and suggestions.

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gawatupwood

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RE: Using black Jun 13, 2011 8:39am

poly boards work well as described above


For internet fabric supplies look up ATMLABEL. In germany, but service is very good.

They stock black velvet and also molleton.

The latter is easier to handle and use for masking than velvet.
Much better than black muslin or cotton.

(I have a velvet backdrop and some molleton masking flats.
The flats are primarily for theatre use. They are timber frames 8' x 4' made of 50mm x 25mm par with centre and corner braces over which the fabric is stretched and stapled)




Link: molleton
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stuartfreeman

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RE: Using black Jun 15, 2011 5:04pm

If anyone else is interested.............
Metal stands for Polyboards.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250821761537
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