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Diamond_Dragon

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I have an idea for an image which will be Matt Miller-esque.

I need to represent a criminal in the image. How would you do it, without being too obvious or tacky?

David.

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Sharon

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RE: How to represent a criminal Feb 21, 2012 10:37am

Are you looking to depict a prison scene, an act of crime, etc? Is the 'criminal' sadistic, misguided, etc?

Kind of depends, if you are depicting an axe welding murderer...or a 'chav' in a hoodie.

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RE: How to represent a criminal Feb 21, 2012 10:43am

Without wanting to give away too much. The image will contain a copper arresting a criminal. I was thinking of the typical chavy look, but lets face it that isn't very arty.

My other thought process was of making the criminals look like barristers.

I want anybody to be able to tell that the individuals that are supposed to be criminals are obviously that.

David

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RE: How to represent a criminal Feb 21, 2012 10:50am

quoting post from Diamond_Dragon:

Without wanting to give away too much. The image will contain a copper arresting a criminal. I was thinking of the typical chavy look, but lets face it that isn't very arty.

My other thought process was of making the criminals look like barristers.

I want anybody to be able to tell that the individuals that are supposed to be criminals are obviously that.

David


Appreciate it is hard to say without giving everything away 'chavvy' doesn't need to be velour tracksuits...I'm thinking (I'm using stereotypes here, for arts sake), for example - a man in scrubby jeans and a wifebeater top, with long greasy/overly gelled hair, stubble or facial hair...a bit grubby, etc.

I would go for dirty/dark colours as much as possible.

But not all criminals fit stereotypes - your barrister idea would work well, IMO. Or bankers, maybe even politicians...

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RE: How to represent a criminal Feb 21, 2012 10:53am

quoting post from Sharon:

......I'm thinking (I'm using stereotypes here, for arts sake), for example - a man in scrubby jeans and a wifebeater top, with long greasy/overly gelled hair, stubble or facial hair...a bit grubby, etc...

I would go for dirty/dark colours as much as possible...


Oops. That's what's staring back at me from the mirror.

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RE: How to represent a criminal Feb 21, 2012 10:56am

How about a local politician ? Sorry you said no slezzie

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RE: How to represent a criminal Feb 21, 2012 11:14am

OMG! im an adjective ... i'm fast becoming a verb ...

Um well if you want to do it like I would you think of the three most famous criminals you can think of and make a composite of them ... the most obvious choices would be Charles Manson, Moriarty and the Hamburgler ... hope that helps





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RE: How to represent a criminal Feb 21, 2012 11:26am

To Miller....have to get a dictionary definition together for that.

You could use props as well rather than have the person looking dodgy. Say a guy in a suit being restrained with a gun or knife just in the shot.

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Diamond_Dragon

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RE: How to represent a criminal Feb 21, 2012 11:27am

Matt, how do you conjugate that verb?

I Matt Miller
We Matt Millers
He Matt Miller...

Past Tense: I Matt Millered (sounds worrying)

Seriously though (if I can ever be serious) Thanks every one for the tips.

David.






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RE: How to represent a criminal Feb 21, 2012 11:43am

quoting post from Diamond_Dragon:

Matt, how do you conjugate that verb?

I Matt Miller
We Matt Millers
He Matt Miller...

Past Tense: I Matt Millered (sounds worrying)

Seriously though (if I can ever be serious) Thanks every one for the tips.

David.






No, shall be

He Matt Millers

You forgot the s for the 3rd person singular



I want to Matt Miller as soon as possible!

God knows what can it mean! LOL



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RE: How to represent a criminal Feb 21, 2012 12:28pm

Pinstripe suit and pencil moustache.....For a forties and fifties gangster.
Double breasted suit and of course any one in any clothing you like so long as you have the policeman holding the criminals hands behind his back.
If you want a comical look then you need a striped Tshirt, a thin eye mask and a stick with a bundle tied on the end marked swag......







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RE: How to represent a criminal Feb 21, 2012 12:32pm

I've Matt Millered snow style. How do you Matt Miller yours?

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RE: How to represent a criminal Feb 21, 2012 1:33pm

You say you don't want too obvious.Everyone has suggested or implied a man so far.

How about a woman,30ish,fairly smartly dressed, clothes shopping bags on the floor either side of her and wearing handcuffs?




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RE: How to represent a criminal Feb 21, 2012 2:27pm

Also very much depends on how allegorical you want to be, rather than literal. The vast majority of real criminals are very ordinary people and would not make you look at them in a crowd. In 16 years in the prison service I have only met one prisoner who LOOKED like a prisoner. Mind you, he looked as if he was a prisoner designed by Charles Dickens!

I can happily offer technical advice on getting details like hand-cuffs right.

I'm not being entirely facetious when I say, dress him (or her) like a banker.

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RE: How to represent a criminal Feb 21, 2012 2:32pm

quoting post from MattMiller:

... the most obvious choices would be Charles Manson,

Really? He has never killed anybody, in fact never even made it round to Sharon Tate's house.


How about Jeremy Thorpe?


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RE: How to represent a criminal Feb 21, 2012 2:53pm

quoting post from Kenp:

Really? He has never killed anybody, in fact never even made it round to Sharon Tate's house.


How about Jeremy Thorpe?


It was a list of the most famous criminals not a list of the most naughty ones ...

However ...

both of them don't even come close to the evil that is the Hamburgular ... Myra Hindley, Dr Evil, Bill Sykes they aint got nothing on this guy ... just take a look at this archive footage ... it is indeed criminal







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RE: How to represent a criminal Jun 23, 2012 5:56pm

If it's a female with shopping bags, you would need to have a foil lined freezer bag with clothes with tags on poking out, or a male with a joint of meat (have arrested several people stealing meat as it's a high value item)

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RE: How to represent a criminal Jun 23, 2012 7:16pm

Quoting Sharon:

a man in scrubby jeans and a wifebeater top, with long greasy/overly gelled hair, stubble or facial hair...a bit grubby, etc.



Though I think instead of a man-have it a woman wearing a wifebeater, stubble, grubby etc.


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RE: How to represent a criminal Jun 23, 2012 7:32pm

quoting post from Kalygulina:

Quoting Sharon:

a man in scrubby jeans and a wifebeater top, with long greasy/overly gelled hair, stubble or facial hair...a bit grubby, etc.



Though I think instead of a man-have it a woman wearing a wifebeater, stubble, grubby etc.


Wasn't this idea covered in the Prodigy "Smack my bitch up"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ud4M6jnz78&feature=fvwrel



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