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DanielBa

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Well, to say it directly: I personally believe that the technical aspects in photography are supervalued. Especially since everybody can "better" its images via photoshop and cameras deliver sharp, unwiggly images "out of the box".

But there were great photographs taken at the times where there was no computer, not even "good" cameras.

So, is it really so very important, that the focus is perfectly on the right place, that the histogram does not show any gaps, that there are details in all light and shadow parts of an image, and so on?

I teach artistic nude workshops and I put almost all the importance on creativity, composition, expression, and just a little bit on technical aspects.

I'd like to know your opinion!

(btw. my workshops can be found here: http://www.daniel-bauer.com/workshop/workshops_en.html However, there are only very few places left)

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 Diceman199

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I'm self taught, don't edit images (except cropping) and have never looked at a histogram. I tend to find what looks good through the viewfinder and work from there.

I think the creative side is where a truely good image comes from....though a lack of technical ability will cock it up.

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ScottChappell

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quoting post from DanielBa:


I teach artistic nude workshops and I put almost all the importance on creativity, composition, expression, and just a little bit on technical aspects.

I'd like to know your opinion!

(btw. my workshops can be found here: http://www.daniel-bauer.com/workshop/workshops_en.html However, there are only very few places left)


If you put so much importance on composition why did you place a f+++++g great big white blob in the middle of the frame that takes all the attention away from the model?

Over to you Mr Nutterly for a proper professional critique.


Scott

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paulcoxphotography

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quoting post from DanielBa:

So, is it really so very important, that the focus is perfectly on the right place, that the histogram does not show any gaps, that there are details in all light and shadow parts of an image, and so on?

I teach artistic nude workshops and I put almost all the importance on creativity, composition, expression, and just a little bit on technical aspects.

I'd like to know your opinion!


Equally is it necessary for the model to be naked to learn to take good images?

In terms of the importance of technique, it's esstential in my view that the focus is where you want it even if your decision is that it's not in of focus. The reality is that technique is relatively easy to teach, 'being artistic' less so.

http://paulcoxphotography.co.uk/new-dance-photography-workshop/

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MattMiller

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Erm ... what was the question again ... I got lost at "histogram" whatever that is ...





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GaryO

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quoting post from paulcoxphotography:

Equally is it necessary for the model to be naked to learn to take good images?



Where does he say the model has to be naked to learn how to take good images ?

He said he does art-nude workshops, no implication there that the only way to learn is to shoot art-nude.

And I though I was antagonistic.

Caution: Internet message boards are not a playground for the hyper-sensitive. NOTHING here (especially my 'attitude') should be taken too seriously.


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Orsoncarter

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quoting post from DanielBa:

...I teach artistic nude workshops and I put almost all the importance on creativity, composition, expression, and just a little bit on technical aspects...



Understood.

A lot of photographers seem hell-bent on technical perfection, but I've seen pics where the pursuit of technical perfection has strangled all the life and spontaneity out of them.

If a picture doesn't make you want to look at it, any technical excellence is wasted.

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DavidL

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If art is about communication, then I would submit that control of the medium is important. And even with an excellent technique is is possible, even important, to create art by controlling the medium in a particular way.

We must all have asked a model to repeat a series of poses in order to take different pictures of the same concept.

Nudity is not of course essential, but many of the greatest artists the world has ever known have been inspired by the nude human form to produce pictures of breathtaking beauty. It is only natural for us to try to emulate them.

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Allinthemind

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I suppose it depends on what you include in technique. I'd include composition and expression in technique.

Si

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 Sharpshooter



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I remember years ago reading an article in a photographic magazine about photographic galleries, which included a glossary of terms used around such places. The one that this thread brings to mind is: "He doesn't let the medium get in the way of the message", which translated as: "He hasn't got the hang of focussing, exposure or composition but he had a go anyway".





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