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OriginalImage

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I have today had a lovely time working with a former net-model Gold Member Model and during a lunch break we got chatting about various websites and their merits.

She said NM was great when she started in 2003 as the first 3 photographers she worked with (I was the 2nd) on a TFP basis, never asked her to go above her levels, gave her a good range of pics to choose from and boosted her confidence to continue.

Over the years she noticed a gradual change whereby everyone that contacted her wanted nude and adult and expected it free until in 2013 she had such a bad experience that she quit the site and finished it off by saying that the site is now full of dirty pervs who think all models will do whatever is asked of them, (myself and around 20 os so other great photographers she had enjoyed working with excepted) and has kept in touch with many other models who felt the same and stopped using the site.

So, there ya go!


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OriginalImage

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RE: From the Horses mouth.. Apr 5, 2015 10:39am

Blimey Emm, although we have not worked together I did not realise you were still active on NM....

I had quite a long conversation around a year ago with a member about images that are clearly badly shot amateur porn which meant I have to be really careful about who is around when I visit NM as they could be offended by such images or think it was just a porn site!




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 martyn



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RE: From the Horses mouth.. Apr 5, 2015 1:32pm

Its a sad indictment on the industry generally I'm afraid.

I allowed my premium membership to lapse in 2012 after 10 years of paying, but by this time I was feeling that I was being taken for a ride with paying for not a great deal of service and decided to not renew.

I think part of the GWC issue has come about from the proliferation of digital cameras making cameras more mainstrem. In the days of film cameras a greater dedication and commitment was required to the craft of imagery.

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 NoNoizePhotography



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RE: From the Horses mouth.. Apr 5, 2015 1:40pm

quoting post from  martyn:

Its a sad indictment on the industry generally I'm afraid.
I think part of the GWC issue has come about from the proliferation of digital cameras making cameras more mainstream. In the days of film cameras a greater dedication and commitment was required to the craft of imagery.

Martyn


Yup, What you said

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RE: From the Horses mouth.. Apr 6, 2015 2:06pm

The OP's model is more than likely correct in what she says, sadly.

It's not just this site, all the sites that I use appear to have more sleazey types than a few years ago. This and the smaller sites have less admin or peer moderation, so it's inevitable that the bad guys will gravitate to sites which don't kick them off.

NM has had it's triumphs and 2014 did see a number kicked off including one or two of the consistently worse.

If your work is reasonable and your reputation solid, there is no problem in booking models of similar standing, both on this site and others.





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RE: From the Horses mouth.. Apr 7, 2015 5:42am

quoting post from OriginalImage:

the site is now full of dirty pervs who think all models will do whatever is asked of them

If this is true, I suspect it might be because this site and those like it are awash with people who call themselves models but are effectively sex industry workers using the sites to ply their trade and who WILL do whatever is asked of them if sufficient tenners are thrust in their direction.

When I started on here (and on a couple of other similar sites) at the end of 2003 the vast majority of model members were only interested in modelling, not in making money by performing sex shows or offering sexual services. However once boadband was rolled out to the masses all that changed and sites like this were taken over by those who saw them as nothing more than a quick way of making cash in hand; what some term the gash4cash set. Naturally when that type of service is on offer it will attract guys who are willing to pay for it, which in turn will attract more people willing to offer the service. It's a self-perpetuating cycle.

Only this weekend I was contacted (though one of the UK-centric sites) by a couple of 'models' from this site who seemed to think I would be keen to shell out a hundred quid an hour to watch them indulging in lesbian sex with each other on another photographer's bed. If I was one of the handful of professional porn photographers who use the UK-centric sites to source performers I could understand why they might have considered contacting me, but as my profile notes on all the sites give no indication whatsoever that I work in that industry I can only assume that they approached me in the hope that I might be a 'punter' seeking personal sexual gratification from the services they offer.

It would be great to think that we could roll back the clock a decade to the time when most users of NM appeared to be primarily interested in modelling / model photography, but unfortunately until somebody invents a TARDIS we are stuck in the seedy internet world of 2015, where many 'models' on these sites are sadly little different to the Soho 'models' of past generations.

A few months back a model friend with absolutely no interest in the porn or prostitution sides of the business suggested funding a website like this for models who are only interested in clothed and possibly artistic (i.e. non-explicit) nude work. My advice to her was not to waste her money, as it simply would not work in 2015. At first she did not believe me, but once she peeled back the surface and looked underneath she soon realised that I was right.

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RE: From the Horses mouth.. Apr 7, 2015 1:17pm

It's a sad reflection on our times.... However any model being approached for sex on NM need only complain to one of the Mods...

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RE: From the Horses mouth.. Apr 8, 2015 7:49am

quoting post from  doctorontop:

It's a sad reflection on our times.... However any model being approached for sex on NM need only complain to one of the Mods...

or photographer being offered it - I would hope

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RE: From the Horses mouth.. Apr 8, 2015 7:51am

doctorontop is indeed correct. However, as one of the mods. may I BEG for feedback. Moderating has become increasingly difficult as the number of dweebs has increased and the site has deteriorated.

I and others are more than happy to respond promptly and to deal with the sex pests and sex workers very firmly but we need to be told they are there and can not spend too many hours trawling for them.

Call me an idiot but I am STILL optimistic for the future but not until summer.


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RE: From the Horses mouth.. Apr 23, 2015 5:06pm

I find it interesting more models have not responded, it would be nice to get opinions from both sides of the fence...

Can Moods Delete accounts?


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RE: From the Horses mouth.. Apr 24, 2015 12:09am

quoting post from OriginalImage:


Can Moods Delete accounts?


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No, we cannot delete accounts only suspend them for James then to review.

Regards A. Mood.…

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RE: From the Horses mouth.. Apr 24, 2015 3:13pm

quoting post from  doctorontop:

No, we cannot delete accounts only suspend them for James then to review.

Regards A. Mood.…


Sorry, hit the button twice!

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RE: From the Horses mouth.. Apr 25, 2015 6:29pm

I have been a model on here and now a photographer. I have been approached for sex as both.

I have been offered work for porn despite saying no.

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